. >> robert costa, we heard from senator joe manchin over the weekend and others. they want a broad base. they said you're not going to get a semiautomatic ban unless you have bettered attention to mental illness and obama today said that the gun lobby people were ginning up fear among americans who otherwise want reform. where is this thing going to play out? >> larry, i just walked over here in the u.s. capitol. the house is now back in session. i spoke with some lawmakers. especially among republican legislator, there's not a clamor to move towards an assault weapon ban, but there's a real discussion about background checks, about limiting the amount of bullets that could be in a magazine. and these are only preliminary discussions. so what president obama did today by talking about an executive order, he is trying to urge this process along, but it's a long way away from being a legislative reality. >> don clark, i appreciate your thoughts on the ban. i'm surprised that the police organizations which i believe would much prefer a ban just as the chief of the ne